Kit Carson County, Colorado |
John F. Scott, 6 South 49 West
Today is March the 11th, 2014, and I’m just inside the Baltimore City limits interviewing Lee Smith or Leora Smith, who likes to go by Lee Smith. And this is a very exciting interview, I am sure. Lee, could I start out by asking you when you were born and where you were born – your early years. LS: I was born the 16th of April 1921, ten miles from the town of Hayden, Colorado, which sits on the banks of the Yampa River in a beautiful part of Northwestern Colorado. MM: Did you continue to live in Colorado for your early years, your elementary education, high school education? LS: Yes, I did. In fact, I rode a horse to school for elementary school and my children think it’s very funny that I can’t ride a bicycle. And I have informed them that that’s alright, I can ride a horse. I went to high school in Hayden and then I went to a small junior college in Grand Junction, which is now a four year college. This is Grand Junction, Western Colorado. And I went there, but I did not get a degree from there. MM: Were you interested in any particular subjects at that time? LS: Music. I’ve always played the piano and my mother has a lovely singing voice. MM: Isn’t that interesting. That was my favorite instrument, too, when I was growing up. I’m very grateful to my mother for getting me the piano. This takes you to approximately the late 20s or the early 1930s, the Depression, the Crash. Was that particularly evident in Colorado, where you were growing up and being educated, the Depression years? LS: There was probably no money and not very much time to do anything. My mother could do all kinds of wonderful things. She was a great cook. She knew how to make clothes. She made all my brothers’ shirts. She made all my school clothes, until I got big enough to do that. And she was a creative person in her way. We stopped every night of our lives to look at the sunset, because the view from our ranch window across the north was a whole range of mountains. And when the sun would set there in the late afternoon, particularly in the winter time when there was snow, it was incredible. So, being outside, learning to look at things, I think was part of my very early education. And I think making clothes was a real outlet for me, because today all the kids want to look alike. In those days, you wanted something different. MM: As we go into the 1930s, and war begins to seem imminent in Europe, I wonder to what extent you had interest in or an awareness of the world outside Colorado or outside the United States. Or did all of this going to war, the European War starting and then Pearl Harbor, was this kind of a shock to you or something that was part of your growing consciousness. LS: I think it was just growing consciousness. Because when I graduated from high school in 1929, I went off to this junior college for a year on a scholarship – that was not renewable unless I lived there – so I did not go back, because I didn’t have enough money to do that. So I got a job selling yard goods in a department store and then I married. And everybody was either in military or going to war, or your family was, your brothers, your uncles, your aunts, all of my school friends. The town of Hayden lost one man during the war. We felt very, very lucky. But it was something that everybody was doing and the thought that I personally would ever visit either Japan or Germany; I would have laughed at them. Who, me? No way! And, yet, I did do that later. MM: So you were working in the department store in the late 30s, early 40s, during World War II? And you met your husband. LS: Yes We married in ’42. He was in Air Force. He ended up in the Pacific. In fact, he helped drive the Burma Road. MM: He flew cargo over Burma Road? LS: He was security with them. I think he drove through there. This is probably what, in the long run, caused the marriage to break up. And it did this to a lot of young people because the men were sent overseas, they learned a lot of things, they saw a different world, and the rest of us had stayed home. So when they came back, we were not the same people. MM: Did you get into any kind of – I know you had some art training here along the way – and I would like to know where that was and how that came about. And do you remember women going off to work in factories and things like that during World War II. LS: A lot of young women that I knew, worked in factories. And I interviewed for a job once at the Gates Rubber Company making fan belts. And when they told me I would stand at a machine for my 8 hour shift and cut fan belts, I said, I can’t do that. I just could not do it. But I didn’t have art training, as such, at that point. It was not taught in my high school. We did a lot of music and dancing, but we didn’t have art. I went to college, again, no art. That just came from this love of making things. I always wanted to paint, but I didn’t have anything to paint with. Let me think a minute here. After the marriage broke up, and I came back from Japan, I had then gotten into photography. MM: Oh. Ok. Well we’ll then get that into the narrative. LS: Then I went to photography school. That was the first time I did any kind of educational thing, which was art-related. I came back from Japan, after that first marriage broke up in ’48 Well, I married again in Japan and it didn’t last at all. MM: An American? LS: Yes. MM: A civilian? LS: Yes, came back and lived in Vermont, but I lived there for three years. And, I’d been there, done that. So I wanted to go overseas again. So I applied to go to Europe" |
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